EverNote vs. OneNote
UPDATE July 2008: Since writing this post in October 2007, some important things have changed on the EverNote side. I’m currently evaluating the EverNote 3 beta and will let you know how things turn out. The original post is below…
Okay, let’s have it out! What tool is best for capturing and organizing notes? For a long time I used nothing but Notepad, plus some hand-crafted AutoHotkey scripts. As I got further into my GTD implementation, I wanted something that fit that methodology better and also integrated well with Microsoft Outlook. By the way, this post probably reeks of Procrastivity, but let’s indulge for a bit.
I canvassed the field multiple multiple times. I installed and uninstalled many a tool on my poor tired laptop, probably making a mess of my registry. There were two tools that I kept coming back to: EverNote and OneNote. Eventually those were the only tools left. For several months I used both tools simultaneously, going back and forth between the two trying to find that one reason that would tip the scales. That one reason never came. Both tools had some great features, and each tool also had several painful shortcomings. To help force the decision, I did what any self-respecting anal-retentive manager would do: I made a list!
The list below represents those features that were important to me for my system along with Low/Medium/High priorities. Where there were major shortcomings, I tried my best to find a work-around as if I had already decided to select that tool and make it work.
|
Feature |
Pri |
EverNote 2.1 |
OneNote 2007 |
| Text Recognition |
H |
Yes, but doesn’t allow you to copy/select text | Yes, and text can be easily extracted |
| Handwriting Recognition (image, not digital ink) |
H |
Yes, but uses a “shotgun” word approach and doesn’t allow you to copy/extract text. | No. |
| Auto Import |
H |
Very nice import of text and images just by dropping to folder. | No. I wish OneNote had this. I even tried some of the currently available “PowerToys” and no such luck. There are some command line tricks you can do, but these are very awkward. |
| PDF Import/ Export |
M |
No, EverNote basically doesn’t handle PDFs. You have to just add a link to the file (as an icon). I got around this somewhat with a Ghostscript command file I wrote to extract JPEGs from the PDF and automatically send them to EverNote. | Yes. You have to install the iFilter from Adobe, but after that you have options to import, export, email, etc. |
| Web Clipping from IE and Firefox |
H |
Yes – fast and accurate with links to original; clip and forget. | Poor – Formats somewhat mangled, Firefox is via 3rd party extension, slow & distracting (you have to watch OneNote open, splash screen and all) |
| Easily create Outlook tasks from Notes |
H |
No, manual process | Yes, very easy to create. Some issues where tasks get out of sync (if you move task to another folder) |
| Send note via email |
L |
Yes, although notes are more of a screen shot (not editable) format | Yes, but included function is weak (sends as OneNote attachment). Can get add-on that sends via PDF. |
| On-Screen editing of notes |
H |
Very limited. Cannot draw or float text over images. When inserting something everything else moves around. | Yes, excellent capability here. Also includes a lot of the standard editing & drawing tools ala Microsoft Word. |
| Easy to learn & use GUI |
M |
I know that scroll tape is their “thing”, but it’s awkward. The notes list is nice for quickly jumping to notes. You can only view one note at a time in full screen, and usually the link/source info is not available in that view. | Editor and layout is very easy if you’re familiar with Office products. The layers of notebooks and sections and tabs and pages feel a bit cluttered. |
| Tagging/ Categories |
M |
Yes, Excellent – ability to tag notes, define rules for automatic tags, and search via tag intersection panel | Very weak and poorly implemented. Only manual tags, no good tag hierarchy. The search function doesn’t filter, instead creates awkward page with copy of tagged items not linked back to original items. |
| Cost |
H |
FREE! As long as you don’t want handwriting recognition (which isn’t ready for primetime anyway) or sync multiple databases. | Fairly expensive… $75 (standard license) on Amazon.com. I saw some better deals on eBay ($55-60) if you’re willing to deal with smaller companies or individuals. Microsoft does, however, offer a free 60-day trial. |
| Built in Search |
H |
Yes, also like the fact that it starts to filter as soon as you type | Yes |
| Support for Desktop Search |
H |
No. Big minus here. No way to quickly get to all that useful data. I think they are adding Google Desktop Search capability in v2.2 however. | Yes – Works well with Windows Desktop Search. Should support Google Desktop Search too but I haven’t tested it. |
| Ability to link to notes from other places |
M |
Yes | Yes |
| Speed |
H |
Generally not an issue – fairly lightweight and fast. Occasional hangs, but pretty rare. | This was a big problem on my Dell Latitude D610. By the time it opened and loaded the page, I almost forgot what I was going to jot down. Not really an issue on my shiny new D630. |
So which one did I finally pick? Well, I broke down and bought a copy of OneNote 2007. One of the biggest reasons was desktop search capability. Even though EverNote has some very nice tagging capability, which trumps filing, search trumps tagging. It’s like rock-paper-scissors but without the circular relationship.
I also started to realize that I wasn’t going to get anything (short of buying a tablet PC) that did highly reliable hand-writing recognition. I was occasionally impressed by that function in EverNote, and I have to give them credit since they are the only ones to have something like this in product, but it’s just not good enough yet to be useful. You can’t extract the text, and if you peek at the XML content, you’ll see what I meant by “shotgun” approach above. For a given hand-written word, any word that is reasonably close gets entered into the database as a match. It’s a one-to-many relationship, so you think it’s working because you get positive hits. When you search on what you expect to match, it matches fairly often. What’s not so obvious at first is that lots of other stuff (incorrect words) will match too. This one-to-many structure is probably why EverNote doesn’t let you copy the recognized text from a hand-written paragraph. There is no cohesive translation per se.
The final nails in the coffin were the editing capability (GUI) and the ability to make synchronized tasks in Outlook with a single click. There are some short-comings to this feature which I will discuss in a future post, but still pretty handy.
So that’s where I am today. It would be great to hear from you as to what tools you prefer and what you think of my assessments. Please post your comments below!
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May 27, 2009 - 6:58 am
Fell in love with Evernote as soon as i saw the screenshots and description – everything i wanted.
The capturing of data from desktop and firefox is handled beautifully. Sync from desktop to web to mobile – oh no!!! – no sync to windows mobile devices? What were they thinking, a notes app that doesnt sync to my HTC??
Offline access, please!!!!
May 28, 2009 - 2:14 pm
Carl,
Good topic! I just wanted to say for those with learning disabilities or who are more visual I think OneNote is the best product. I have sever dyslexia so I spell words backwards most times, and how I spell it on one day may not be the same the next. So “tagging” in Evernote by using words is an almost useless method for me. It would mean I could have 3-4 tags for the same thing spelled differently, or that I have to run a Word document to spell check my tag, copy/paste into Evernote each time.
OneNote however is great for this, not only is the same
spellchecker features in Word on the screen already but the visual tags are fantastic. They mean I don’t have to use written words for tags, I can use the icons. I have made full use of this creating tags with icons for things like Map Directions (the Car Icon) travel plans (the plane icon), Make a Call (the cell phone icon), E-mail someone (the email icon) Goals reached (Smiley face icon) Goals not reached (Frown icon), Achivents (Ribbon Icon), Money item (Dollar sign) ect. So I just press on the icon that relates to my tags and I have it tagged avoiding my writing disability.
Its also great because I can visually see from the icons what types of things I need to get done today (which is good because I invert letters when I read as well). I’ve used it all through law school and am using it heavily in bar review right now and the visual tags make it very effective for me.
The only issue is searching tags, I can’t seem to find a away to just list all my “make a call” tags very easily. Oh, and I wish it had an Iphone App!
Anyway just thought I would add that to the discussion.
May 29, 2009 - 6:31 am
Matt – Great points, thanks for the comment!
-Carl
June 12, 2009 - 6:56 am
Now that Evernote has actually updated to Version 3, here are a couple of things that they added.
1. Allows you to copy and select text
2. Full Handwriting and Image Text Finding
3. PDF Support (using either Adobe or Foxit iFilter
4. Free Syncroniztion of Handwriting and multiple databases (known as notebooks.
With these new features, Evernote is probably better now than OneNote.
June 18, 2009 - 7:40 am
Also worth noting is how Evernote and OneNote can be accessed via a smart phone or on the internet. Evernote can be accessed on the iPhone with a great user interface. Evernote can also be accessed from the internet. OneNote can only be accessed with smartphone that uses Microsoft Windows Mobile. OneNote cannot be accesses over the internet.
For these reasons, I stopped using OneNote (after three years with it) and moved to Evernote. I need access when I’m away from a computer and Evernote is great.
July 10, 2009 - 9:34 am
Great comparison. It was nice to see a side by side comparson of EverNote and OneNote. I think one of the major reasons people prefer OneNote is the interface. Despite its lack of some specific features, one thing everyone seems to agree on is that it is so intutive and easy for just about evryone to use. I really hope that future versions include more features found in applications like Excel and possibly one day the ability to have live data in there.
August 26, 2009 - 4:39 pm
I enjoy EditPad Lite.
October 26, 2009 - 4:35 am
Hi- I seem to be unable to get the “type/selection ” tool to turn off so I can use the pens etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated
November 4, 2009 - 8:44 pm
Jarrod -
Sorry for the slow response… If you have a question that is specific to OneNote itself, there are several places you can go for help. The first place is the Microsoft Community forum. There are also some blogs maintained by the OneNote development team, such as the ones here and here.
Hope that helps.
-Carl
December 31, 2009 - 5:28 pm
One of the key features for us was OneNote’s ability to share notebooks and have others update them. You only need server space to do it and it works kind of like a Wiki.
So if you want to share your notebook and have 4 or 5 people access it, you can all buy Evernote or use Hamachi 2.0 to link your computers to a central server.
January 4, 2010 - 12:14 am
Good point, collaboration was once a big disadvantage for Evernote, but both sharing and collaboration are now available. Of course, actual collaboration with multiple editors is a premium/paid feature for Evernote.
-Carl
January 3, 2010 - 4:18 pm
Hello Carl,
I don’t understand your problem regarding searching in Evernote. The program’s built-in search facility – with or without tags – is outstanding, why do you need Desktop Search?
For me, EN is unparalleled, it’s weaned me off the disgracefully expensive and outdated Info Select and the only thing on my features wishlist is a Linux desktop app.
January 4, 2010 - 12:28 am
Alan – I agree the search feature in Evernote is great, but most of the time I’m searching for things that are not in Evernote (emails, Outlook tasks, spreadsheets, presentations, text files, etc). Google Desktop Search and Windows Desktop Search are great free tools for finding this stuff. Since neither can index the Evernote database, I’m stuck running multiple separate searches. There has been a lot of discussion on the topic, but no progress from the Evernote team. I don’t think anyone is actively working on this. Very disappointing.
-Carl
February 7, 2010 - 8:24 am
Thanks for this thorough evaluation.
Re. tags in Evernote, you mention that the user can “define rules for automatic tags”
This would be really useful for me, however I can’t see how to enable it in v3.5.
Any ideas? Thanks!
February 7, 2010 - 10:50 am
Hi James – I need to do a full update to the post above… Some features related to tag & category assignment, and the intersection panel, were definitely lost in the transition from EverNote 2 to Evernote 3. You can find some discussion of this here, here, and elsewhere. After this amount of time, it doesn’t seem to be coming back. Your best best is to to use a saved search to approximate this functionality.
-Carl
February 17, 2010 - 6:00 pm
Hi Carl,
Very interested in your comment: I’ve been using Info Select for years. I agree it’s expensive, but I basically rely on it for all my work. I’m an academic and one of my core activities is writing – articles, essays, chapters and so on. I use IS for storing and arranging all my notes, information, data etc., and I find Info Select’s ability to allow you to create your own hierarchy, and to search literally everything absolutely essential.
What I can’t seem to discover without actually using Evernote is whether it can match IS in this regard. What I’m asking, essentially, is whether, as in IS, you can ‘drop’ information into relevant folders that you can work with later, i.e. create a sort of loose structure that you can update and change constantly, but which instantly searchable a the same time. At least from the publicity, Evernote looks like a big grab-bag of ’stuff’, so that you can search and find anything, but perhaps without imposing your own structure on your information.
I’m hoping that’s a false impression, because in many ways Evernote looks really good. Can you tell me whether it ‘replaces’ Info Select, or do you lose some of Info Select’s strengths by going over to Evernote.
I’d be very interested, as well as grateful, for your thoughts.
Nick.
February 23, 2010 - 10:35 pm
Hi Nick – Evernote has a few ways to organize. First of all, you can create multiple notebooks and easily drag and drop notes between them. The notebooks can be either local, synchronized to the Evernote cloud, or published. When you search, you have the option of searching within a specific notebook or across all notebooks in your database. Beyond the hard landscape, Evernote also has saved searches with some pretty nice syntax available, as well as tagging capability. With tags, you can establish a hierarchy and group tags under other tags, etc.
I’m sure there are differences in the ways that Evernote and Info Select operate. I have never used Info Select, so I can’t say for sure what you would be loosing. Since Evernote is free, my recommendation is to try it out for a while (without migrating any of your current IS data) and see if you like it.
-Carl
March 24, 2010 - 9:03 am
you can share the OneNote 2007 notes via a sharepoint server and you can ever work in colaboration, more users can edit the same note at the same time. That’s cool. But you need a Microsoft Sharepoint platform(server) to share files.
March 24, 2010 - 11:02 am
@ Nick
I’ve dumped Info Select in favour of Evernote. Regarding folders. The main limitation of Evernote which attracts criticism is that there is no nesting of your folders (notebooks).
However, it’s a deliberate policy. The philosophy seems to be that it’s better to search data than to structure it.
This was the way Info Select was in V1 in when dinosaurs roamed the Earth.
The good news is that you can nest tags. So I’ve adopted the strategy of thinking of tags as folders – then the problem goes away.
I only have 3 folders: Photos, Invoices and Everything Else.
The advantage of this strategy is that you can allot multiple tags to a note whereas it can only be in one notebook.
March 24, 2010 - 5:12 pm
Thanks for this, Alan – your thoughts are interesting. I have a related comment though. I often enter information that I know will be important to me, but at the time I’m entering it I don’t know exactly HOW I am going to use it. Thinking up tags, therefore is not always possible at the time. )As you know Info Select I can use its jargon here.) What I do in situations like this (which occur every day) is create a Topic with some general heading, and drop notes into it – the topic is like an old manila folder that I know I’m going to open some time soon when I know the context in which I’m going to use a particular piece of information. It’s only then that I know my ‘Tag’. The powerful thing about IS is that it strikes a balance between the less structured approach of Evernote, and the ability to LOOSELY structure my information in as many ways as I like, so that I can find a piece of information when I don’t have a Tag and might not know exactly the right search to perform to find it.
When I’m writing an article for instance, I’ll have loosely arranged potentially useful information in one of those ‘manila folder’ topics, and I will read through it all to remind myself of what I’m doing. With the structure you describe (with all my information in an Everything Else folder) I don’t think I’d be able to do that.
Sorry to ‘rabbit on’ about this (Aussie saying?!), but I’d be interested in your thoughts, if you have time.
Cheers,
Nick.
March 25, 2010 - 12:14 am
I use a “fridge door” tag for stuff like that. Or you can just have a Temp default notebook to dump stuff in.
You may be interested in these two threads with a lot of comment about IS & Evernote, the first one on my blog and the second on another Kiwi blog:
http://mywitsend.co.nz/computer-stuff/software/725
http://jmacg.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/evernote-enters-my-life/
Alan Vallis
Whanganui
May 1, 2010 - 10:57 pm
Great Post. I add this Blog to my bookmarks.
May 17, 2010 - 3:29 am
I am exactly like you, I can’t choose between Evernote and OneNote. SO hard! But if I really have to choose, I think it would be Evernote, just because it is quicker to load, LOL.
June 28, 2010 - 7:50 am
One problem with OneNote Web app, which is particularly stupid and annoying, is that the search box that shows in the desktop program disappears. For the life of me I do not know where it is. And I tried control-E to do a search in the Web app, but it does not work. That pretty much kills off Onenote for me, since I need the mobility.
July 1, 2010 - 12:39 pm
I use MobilerNote (Free) with WiFi (Free registration on their site to activate) to sync my iPhone and iPad with OneNote. Since I use IE, I never really notice problems with web pages dropped into a notebook page.
I use different notebooks/folders (color coded) for different things like projects, software have v. desired and tracking keys and serial numbers, SAP transactions and source data attributes (and meanings), etc.
OneNote (two thumbs up) and MobilerNote on the iDevices!!
July 6, 2010 - 3:02 pm
Kurt – thanks for the suggestions!
July 4, 2010 - 10:38 am
I really want to like evernote because it has some features that one note does not, but I find the layout really unintuitive to use. I also find for clipping things which you would like to read later that the view is not very convenient for reading, but maybe that is because I have a mini netbook.
I am surprised that people have trouble with loading onenote, because I have the opposite problem. Onenote loads quickly on startup and evernote takes forever. I have trouble with clipping too, it’s very slow in evernote, I don’t know why. I like onenote for lists and compilations of info, such as info for a trip, etc. but I like evernote for storing whole webpages that I want to refer to later. I’m sort of using both right now trying to figure out which to use as the main note taking. I was lucky that I got onenote free with my work office suite.
July 6, 2010 - 3:06 pm
The layouts in the two tools are definitely different. The thing I like about the Evernote layout is that you can quickly sort and/or filter long lists of notes by different columns. With OneNote 2007, some of sections were getting cluttered with long list of page tabs. Hopefully I’ll be able to try ON2010 in a few months to see if it is any better in that respect.
-Carl